Nepal – the country of Mt. Everest and Buddha

Nepal – the country of Mt. Everest and Buddha

At Buddha’s birthplace: A Chinese development proposal causes disbelief

Posted by Ram Kumar Shrestha on August 22, 2011


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CleanThought wrote:
Aug 18th 2011 11:33 GMT

3B may be big amount for Nepal but given the gravity of urge to put the livelihood of people living in a place where a philosophy of eternal peace and civilization took its birth some 2560 years ago is not enough. Apple corporation has 80B cash in hand, worlds most valuable company on the otherhand US treasury and government is bailed by China! If 3B is real from China to Lumbini, so what? Have writer been to Lumbini? Or Nepal? Nepal is Chinas immidate neighbor! Buddhim is China’s national religion too!

Water flows downward because of gravity which is natural force! Money flows towards where there is opportunity! Where is oppurnity? In a island where people do not ware sleepers? It’s an attitude driven by prespective of gain or interest or gratitude! Who on the earth is largest trade partner with US and India, China? Then why so big huha from India (if there is any) if China aims to be largest trade partner to Nepal too! It’s India’s problem they did not had enough time to regard their neighbor’s best along with their economic prosperity! India’s rulers from past 20 years or more thought its government officers expatriate childrens earned money, transferred skills and network management is only biggest job for them! India suppose to lead in it’s varried roles in all fronts with it’s neighbor in South Asia as per expectation from the globe, could not delivered. Simply no serious thought given on formulating and improving policy towards its neighbor. Just lost in the greed of few administrative diplomat’s parrot taught old school of thought left by British India so called India’s foreign policy!

Frankly people from India and Nepal are far ahead in awareness than the leaders from there! All know India do not have any foreign policy with US, China or Nepal on the other and all know China have serious vision for US, India and Nepal. And all rest of the world including Africa.

Why Nepal is same poor nation always? Its been decades all the aid agencies working in Nepal very minimum achieved. UN world heritage took so many sites to declear the sites value for human civilization study, but people living near there left untreated fairly?? Now China with power of money took one site for consideration, why big huh a! Lets see what China can do to Nepal, not only to US, Apple or India!

Thank You!

Krishna Ghorasaine
Sindhupalchowk, Nepal

Bill88888888 wrote:
Aug 19th 2011 12:53 GMT

Why is Nepal so poor? It is because Nepal is landlocked nation which has no other routes for export except through India. However, knowing Nepal has no other choice but to transit through India, India treated Nepal with unfair advantage so that Nepal has to high price for its imports and exports. The reason there are unfairness in relation with India because it is insurmountable to cross the Hamalaya over to China. The British had planned for Nepal to be a buffer to China. However, India has a dream of Pan-Indus civilization under one country which should be annexed its neighbours under India’s grand leadership. This dream is unattainable at this instance because of weak military preparedness and economically in-advancement. Given the chance, it will do to its neighbour, similar to annexation of Goa by using unilateral military forces.

Now comes China into the picture. With bags of cash to donate or lend to its neighbours with no string attached. It seems cake falling from sky. Trades for Nepal can be through two countries. There is competition now for Nepal to choose. Not only the Chinese provide abundance of cash and technology, but it will also connect a land route for Nepal’s import and export through Tibet of China. Nepal not only can export physical goods, it can also provide China’s Tibet and Sichuan provinces with clean hydro-power. Because of competition, hydro-power can sell for higher price. Nepal, like Outer Mongolia, can sell it resources to world through China’s built infrastructures. See this, its neighbour India, is in no time for elation. However, this is fair to the Nepalese.

JAIHA wrote:
Aug 20th 2011 4:13 GMT

@Bill(lucky numbers)

“Why is Nepal so poor?”

Do you live in some fairyland?
How much time have you spent in either Nepal or India. Are you sure you know what you are talking about?
No offence meant.

JAIHA wrote:
Aug 20th 2011 4:17 GMT

Besides, I get a stomach cringe imagining a $3 billion Buddha Disneyland in Lumbini… That’s the last thing Nepal needs.

How about offering that amount to build schools in the Nepalese Himalayas, provide solar energy, running water, roads, opportunities for homegrown small-scale industries instead of capital intensive hydropower projects which will only benefit Chinese companies and corrupt Nepalese politicians?

JAIHA wrote:
Aug 20th 2011 4:19 GMT

Heck, you don’t honour the Buddha by throwing money at his birthplace!

VvsB8qPCuu wrote:
Aug 20th 2011 6:44 GMT

@CleanThought

I hope you’re aware that Buddhism originates in India and the Buddha himself lived most of his life there.

CleanThought wrote:
Aug 20th 2011 7:13 GMT

@VvsB8qPCuu

Bollywood dude! Better still bring this 3B to India! Build new nuclear power plant, repeat Bhopal, buy new fighter engines, repeat Cargil & terror millions of poor and hungry in the region. This time Vuddha and Vuddhim born in your in your Bollywood! Then come to the economist again, claim it, tell me and all in this comment section this article!

@JAIHA
I suppose living in Nepal n India is not same in many respect! Don’t sell false claim!

All the best!

Krishna Ghorasaine
Sindhupalchowk, Nepal

Bill88888888 wrote:
Aug 21st 2011 2:12 GMT

JAIHA wrote:
Aug 20th 2011 4:13 GMT

@Bill(lucky numbers)

“Why is Nepal so poor?”

Do you live in some fairyland?
How much time have you spent in either Nepal or India. Are you sure you know what you are talking about?
No offence meant.
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Nepali are making $1100 PPP per year and American is making 30 times more. Is that rich?

I have a Nepali colleague who is a mild Hindu and is constantly complaining about Indian arrogance. Will you say he is the only one who complains?

So I suppose you have been in Nepal lately. Tell us what the Nepali thinks.

-Humayun- wrote:
Aug 21st 2011 6:39 GMT

My comments were deleted. I did not use any offensive words. It’s unfair to delete my comments by the Economist magazine. Pure double standards.

So many comments were posted here that are offensive to India and Indians. Yet they continue to be tolerated.

Of course we all agree that Nepal is a poor country but that is not to say that Britain or China are rich countries either. Stop this hatred towards India and co-operate with the Indian Union. If you don’t then be prepared for the consequences. You will always remain a poor landlocked country no matter how much you start kissing the Super power British/Western or chinese.

One day you will realise that Without India you will never be able to sleep, eat or do well. Everything to Nepal whether toothpaste, underwear passes through India. How can the Nepali government be so stupid so as to ignore all this.

Same message is also for the pakistanis, stop this anti-india hatred and co-operate with the Union of India.

It is only a matter of time before India will abandon the dirty unholy commonwealth under which the british crown still dances in pride. The monarch there today has a new couple the macho but unconvincing chap willam and his new hot but flirty caterine. With India leaving commonwealth there will be a flurry of countries following our footsteps as well. The first probably will
be pakistan. Only the white loyal anglo saxon countries will remain in the commonwealth.

With time People in the region be it from Pakistan, China, thailand, nepal will realise that They all are connected to The indian civilisation. Jai Hind.

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silent night wrote:
Aug 21st 2011 2:39 GMT

-Humayun- wrote:
Of course we all agree that Nepal is a poor country but that is not to say that Britain or China are rich countries either. Stop this hatred towards India and co-operate with the Indian Union. If you don’t then be prepared for the consequences. You will always remain a poor landlocked country no matter how much you start kissing the Super power British/Western or chinese.

One day you will realise that Without India you will never be able to sleep, eat or do well. Everything to Nepal whether toothpaste, underwear passes through India. How can the Nepali government be so stupid so as to ignore all this.

With time People in the region be it from Pakistan, China,thailand, nepal will realise that They all are connected to The indian civilisation. Jai Hind.

——-No Chinese say China is a rich country,but Britain is.After read your comment,I know the reason why all the Indian neighbours hate India. India can not force its neighbours do whatever he wanted to do,after all,This is 21st century.Your intimidation and threats is very naked and madcap.Nepel has the right to determine their own future,how to do and what to do.They can collaborate with any countries including China,US,Britain etc,certainly also including India.

——-Finally,who is Indian? what is its definition? how many people look themself on as Indian? look USSR,you will find right answer, Arrogance will lead its own collapse,especially for a multi-ethnic, multi-cultural community.They denigrate others outside and inside,ethnic conflict and cultural conflict will be a only end.

Bill88888888 wrote:
Aug 21st 2011 8:06 GMT

-Humayun- wrote:
Aug 21st 2011 6:39 GMT

1…. Stop this hatred towards India and co-operate with the Indian Union. If you don’t then be prepared for the consequences. You will always remain a poor landlocked country no matter how much you start kissing the Super power British/Western or Chinese.

2. One day you will realise that Without India you will never be able to sleep, eat or do well. Everything to Nepal whether toothpaste, underwear passes through India. How can the Nepali government be so stupid so as to ignore all this.

3. Same message is also for the pakistanis, stop this anti-india hatred and co-operate with the Union of India.

———————————————–
1. Submit to the Indian’s will and cooperate under threat, or else the Nepali or Indian’s neighbours will be strike by the God of Lightening.

2. One day you will realise that “with” India you will never be able to sleep, eat or do well. Everything to Nepal whether toothpaste, underwear passes through India and all these are more expensive that India. How can the Nepali government be so stupid so as to ignore all this.

3. Threat by an Indian poster “cooperate or death to Pakistan”. Please leave Pakistan alone, for this article is about Nepal.

zombie4Nepal wrote:
Aug 22nd 2011 4:26 GMT

People like Humayun exemplify why young Nepali harbor anti-India sentiments. As much Indians like to claim the earliest civilization in the world, that’s a very distant past and Indians today are among the most uncivilized. With more people in poverty in its 10 states than 28 sub-Sahara nations in Africa, India somehow manages to interfere in every one of it’s neighbor’s internal affairs. With one and a half billion people, good luck making it beyond a developing country status in our lifetime!

Being landlocked doesn’t mean we have to depend on you for everything. If only our corrupt Nepali leaders had spine, we could use all of our rivers originating from the Himalayas into irrigation and hydropower and the agriculture in Northern India will disappear. We throw most of our sewer into those rivers that you Indians use and worship. Be thankful to us!

I take this plan positively. It’ll offer the southern Nepal a chance to develop economically and attract global spotlight instead of the Himalayas and trekking alone bearing the burden of putting Nepal onto the world map. If nothing else, it will provide a constant stream of irritation to the Indians and I for one will die content with it.

TS2912 wrote:
Aug 22nd 2011 5:24 GMT

It is nice that Nepal is getting a second option for a trading partner.

An extra set of roads heading east should (hopefully) go a long way towards increasing trade and helping one of the poorest nations on earth.

(This is much better than the highway between Pakistan and China which is used purely for military purposes, but, come to think of it, Pakistan has demonstrated little desire for trade and commerce)

Aug 22nd 2011 5:57 GMT

Nepal blame all of its problems on India. I dont understand a reason.

India has given Nepal free access to her labour market. Anyone from Nepal can live and work in India without even passport. This India-Nepal open border is one of the longest in the world and beneficial to Only Nepal.

Considering China as replacement to India- umm well do it.

Nepal blame India for goods being more expensive in Nepal than India. This criticism is unfair. Neither goods are more expensive in Nepal nor India is responsible for Nepal’s trade. Now Nepal wants to open new trade route via China. Lets see how cost efficient will it be to transport goods using that route- the route which will be at-least 4000km long(Distance in Lhasa and Hong Kong is more than 4000km BTW). Considerable part of this will be passing through Himalayas and Tibet- and good luck with it.

Nepal has open access to Indian labour market. China may make similar offer. Good luck spending years learning Chinese. And yes do replace India tourists with Chinese one. The train may make it simple anyway.

And yes, If Nepal feels being oppressed by India; China over India,is not an option. This will simply Change oppressor, oppressed will remain oppressed.

Aug 22nd 2011 6:03 GMT

@CleanThought,

I dont think you are from Nepal. If believe you are more likely Chinese. Are you really writing from Sindhupalchowk?

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